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Started by Xandrix on 4:53pm 4/4/11. 1,662 views and 43 posts, 0 users reading, last post by Tratty.

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Just curious about what people think here. Is the current L4D1 skill level of the top players higher or lower than previously. Hearing a lot of people saying the reason we don't see high scores is that infected can attack well, however there's a lot saying that it's that people these days are not good enough at survivor which is why they wipe.

As for me, I reckon that generally the skill level is considerably lower. People punt and skeet less reliably and attacks are not as well synced in general. I think tank play has gotten better though tbh, but it might just be the HR forcing tanks to actually do shit other than just stand on a building 500m away flexin'. Which has ruined my ability to tank - goddamn 1cm arms...

Anyway, interested about what people think!
Posted on Monday, 4th April 2011
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survivors about the same infect super shit just roto makes it super infect ezmode
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Well based on trattys skill level i would say the level of skill is extremely high, our infected are extremely good actually as we have players like "tommy" if you haven't heard of him your new. His tactic is to sit on top of building watching the hunters pounce then grabbing them , very effective . Based not on this alone it is extremely high
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compared to when? CGi? i think individual skill among the entirety of the community (which is much smaller too) has improved overall though the top players skill level is probably lower. team work has just gone to shit.

i know this is at least correct for me.
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Individual skill of everyone has definitely increased. Look at a lot of the players who first watched the original Crayons, 4Q and [] games like they were gods, who can now play amongst them and hold their own in the pugs.

Team work and skill may look like its deteriorated purely because there's no teams.
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winning is not nearly as important as getting an erection over looking good
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Pretty sure you're so worried about winning. See Dougking. DA 2.

Also, give Fayce l4d.
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The game is a lot harder now then it was. When CGi was being played Cevo was still around there was still t2.

Then frus came along and made life alot harder but there were still 2 million item spawns.

Now we have roto and HC roto which if teams that played this back then now, I think they would be having the same issues the top tier teams are having now.

Having said that, if the top few teams from back then still played as much now as they did then, I think the 4 main teams from back then would still dominate, where as now there are just 4 teams.
Posted on Tuesday, 5th April 2011
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Level of comms in pugs is shit.

Don't need to skeet if you can insta-clear, and can't insta-clear if everyone's doing their own thing and running around without a main strat.

Skill cap in L4D is pretty low, I mean, what do you need to do that's skillful? Pretty much skeeting, only HR requires traditional aim.

The real skill comes with teamwork, individual skill is meaningless, the amount of times in pugs where a team of good players loses is just down to everyone doing their own thing and assuming their way is right, shitty players are more likely to talk to each other because no one knows wtf to do.

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Thus Jas spake, and many doth fear him.
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Don't need to skeet if you can insta-clear, and can't insta-clear if everyone's doing their own thing and running around without a main strat.

^ people getting an erection > winning.

and tickles da1 brah and that wasnt winning based, that was him being a depressed dropkick about a potential winning tank and ignoring facts and the rest of the team
good you did your research tho (Y)
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why do I keep getting brought up when lamb opens his mouth btw move on bro and rest of team u mean the ones who didn't accept or opposes. "depressed dropkick" i am not depressed

and to link this back to the topic there seems to be a lot more skill but less teams not that I would know but some people mentioned it
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I think everyone is ok especially at shooting hunters when they are in the sky and concrete but I think everyone is not very good at monsters because the tanks are very bad except for mine but maybe it's because servers have bad rates and default interp is not good enough
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"why do I keep getting brought up when lamb opens his mouth"

maybeh your in my mouth : D yummeh <3
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Quote from Coy Koi on the 5th of April 2011:
I think everyone is ok especially at shooting hunters when they are in the sky and concrete but I think everyone is not very good at monsters because the tanks are very bad except for mine but maybe it's because servers have bad rates and default interp is not good enough

Well said Koi
Posted on Tuesday, 5th April 2011
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