Hey guys, Cripsy from ACL here, just letting you all know about the rule changes for FIFA 11.

ACL has decided to allow 5 star teams to be used in their competitions. This means that you may now use any team(except Classic XI, World XI, Creation Center teams and International teams) you like when participating in ACL tournaments, including the upcoming Sydney LAN.

To register for Fifa or one of the other exciting games ACL is having in Sydney follow this link:
www.aclpro.com.au/2011/events/acl-sydney-2011

See you at Sydney

I might come, but seriously 5 star teams wrecks it for me.

Agreed 5 star does wreck it, With 5 stars teams you might not necessary get the better players winning and you also run the risk of the better players absolutely destroying weaker players therefore the weaker probably wont come back due to constant floggings

4.5 star was fine and worked well, y the change, cause now youll have a comp where every1 will choose Real, Barca or Chelsea

At least with the 4.5 there was a wider range of teams (Arsenal. Man City, Tottenham, Borussia Dortmund, Juventus, Milan, Bayern, FC Porto, Liverpool, think i saw a Sevilla as well) all of which where used at 1 point during the last Online round

I think the 4.5 star team separated ACL from CG but now the two are kinda identical the only different is the format

there is not anything wrong with 5 star teams, as all teams have there strengths and weaknesses.

This point was disproven in ACL online round 1 where all but one person chose from one of four teams. ACL have done the right thing and the circuit will be more competitive because of it.

Which 4 teams are u talking bout? (Noticed how at the end i said during the last online round which was 2 not 1)

I believe they haven't done the right thing, there was only 1 issue they needed to fix that was D/C in extra time as this was the only controversy i heard during 8 days of play

More competitive?

Your wrong there - if anything this give weaker players a greater chance to beat a 'higher skilled' player due to skill sets the 5 star team players have and all there traits - i can image it now players who dont know how to score will resort to Lampard, Ronalod and Messi from range, constantly and will get 'lucky' eventually

The ACL Round 2 was very competitive (as a lot off games in the pro bracket went to a 3rd fixture) with 4.5 star team and there was a wide range of teams used as i stated before and the competition had no major dramas the only drama involved Brett and Maverick

There was no need for change to team selection restrictions, so basically now ACL has lost its unique (being no 5 star teams) competition and falls in line with other comps (is this due to some sort of pressure, cause not 1 of the ACL officials during the tourney every mentioned a possible change to me), from my view point i loved playing the ACL tourney just cause we had to use 4.5 and could really to some extent rely on player attributes

I believe the teams were, at least for the knock-out stage, Arsenal, AC Milan, Tottenham, Bayern Munich and Man City. So that is five, not four. My apologies. But still, for all the 'variation' in teams that you seem to speak of, 5 teams is no different, if not worse than with 5 star teams as all these teams are still available, and can still be extremely competitive.

The change to allow 5-star teams was decided well before Online Round 2 from what I know. However, you still are misunderstanding why having 5 star teams is actually more competitive.

There's this thing called the skill cap. Essentially, it is the amount of skill needed to play the game at its peak. Because 5 star teams have better players and can do things that other players cannot, they give the user more tools to work with. Because the user has more tools to work with, it means that the skill cap is higher. The higher the skill cap, the more competitive it is.True, it may make it easier for lesser skilled user to play the game because the stats are higher, but a more skilled user will be able to get the most out of 5 star teams. Likewise, when limiting users to 4.5 star teams, all it means is that the better players are bound by their team's ability, not by their own skill.
Without 5 star teams, players in 4.5 star teams and lower are prone to unavoidable skill errors even if the user has played it perfectly. Including 5 star teams actually takes luck out of the game, more so than having them banned.

You can work this argument backwards too. The further down the star ratings you go, the less competitive it gets and it is obvious. 3 star teams are less competitive than 4 star teams, and 4.5 star teams are less competitive than 5 star teams.

Moreover, there are a few 4.5 star teams that essentially become 5 star teams with a few changes to formation and starting line-up. You can't avoid the issue of there always being a most powerful team. If anything, this problem is more accentuated in tournaments where the teams are limited because of this problem. These teams would still be competitive against 5 star teams because of this also (as I stated earlier).

You will probably never accept this explanation, but I guess that can't be helped. However, this explanation is correct and if it wasn't, ACL would not have changed their rules. ACL did not change their rules simply because they thought it would draw more people in. ACL strives to be a highly competitive environment and the main reason they have changed the rules is because they know that having these teams included is more competitive. The issue of attracting more players or bringing the ruleset inline with other major tournaments was most-likely more of an afterthought, though that in itself would suggest the rule change was to promote more competitive play.

If it's such a disadvantage to the higher skilled players, why is it always the average ones complaining?

This isnt what i heard when talking to an ACL guy who has a pretty big influence over there

And r you calling me average Muzza? If so that very disrespectful to not only me but to a very large portion of players both on your ladder (who im currently higher than) and to the 44 people who i ranked higher than in the ACL tourney

oh so average

David, why are you posting your concerns here anyway? There was a topic made about this on the ACL forums and as this is an ACL matter, why would you bother arguing about it here?

coz he knows this is where the pros are @ (Muzza)

cause this is where i saw there announcement first

all i did was state y i didnt like the change and now its escalated into this

its true though, 5 star teams did wreck it. i actually enjoyed using juventus and not having to worry about ronaldo or drogba tearing apart my defence.

Even if you drop 5 star teams, you will still get the bulk of people choosing 4 - 5 teams.

I would love to see a tournament with everyone not using the 4 usual teams. But it aint gonna happen.