is that a motorbike?

Im guessing you don't know your cars?

dim sim on wheels.

Milk and juice come in two liters.

i'm a gt5 lover with both xbox & trey so no i'm not jelly. i'm a sim-racer, so arcade racers like shift 2 & forza only entertain me for a very short period.

i do have a full racing cockpit though, you jelly ?

Forza 4 has better physics than Gt5 and it has better graphics and more cars U JELLY?

Just got the game today lols.

How?

Comparing that shit to GT5? gotta be from xbox

why would he be jelly
he just said he has a xbox aswell so obviously he will have forza 4 wen its out

yeah i'll get forza but i'm expecting it to be the same as any arcade racer where you smash it out, get some achievements & move on. gt5 is constant, always going back to that game for one reason or another amidst all the other racers.

as for forza having better physics than gt5 i'm yet to see it. have you played forza 4 &/or gt5 to make that comparison & statement ?

i've played gt5 & the physics feel very real until you get in a spec V, but those cars are 'unreal' in real life so that's to be expected. i've also got shift 2 which claimed better physics yadda yadda yadda & it failed miserably as it is of course an arcade racer. forza will 'most likely' be the same as shift 2 as both have their roots firmly set in the arcade racing department which appeals to the kiddy racers (ie. the xbox demographic). whereas gran turismo has & always will be about simulation first, with everything else second (hence why in many cases its graphics seem dated & poor as it's a compromise they've made).

i guess games like forza & shift can make the claim of 'greater realism' as i often found at times the pure immersion of shift 2 was far beyond anything of gt5. that's not based on physics, but the overall experience with sparks, blur, accident damage etc which gt5 is really lacking in.

Forza 4's physics fell 1,000,000 times deifferent to forza 3's and i have played gt5, its not realistic at all imo but comparing shift to forza is like comparing CoD to battlefield

so you haven't played forza 4 yet making those outlandish claims ?

also forza 3 & shift look near identical when played in exterior/3rd person view but in handling forza 3 has more driving assistance so it's a near perfect comparison.

Forza 4 demo and Fm3 looks more like gt5 than shift