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Started by biggest_kid on 10:24am 16/1/12. 336 views and 15 posts, 0 users reading, last post by ApexjE.

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Hey guys was looking into mouses and shit today, and was just wondering how accurate most of the info in this article is?
Specifically points 1.1, 1.2, 1.8 and 2.10.

http://counterstrikesourcetactics.blogspot.com/2008/02/css-mouse-optimization-guide.html

I know its for css but a lot of the 'improvements' are not in css so i thought id post it here.
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majority of it would be accurate.

but for 1.2, leave it on 6
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mostly accurate
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haha did u even read it lantern?

And do u guys think itll even make a noticable difference? Or what i like to call a nerd difference? Where it would only be noticable to a mega-nerd.
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i've read that guide a few times through over the years, im guessing lantern would have too.

its all comes down to personal preference in the end, can try some of that stuff, and if you're not comfortable with it, just revert back to old settings.

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So it is true that windows re-enables that pointer precision option when a game is launched?
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nope

counter strike 1.6 uses the desktop mouse settings and forces some accel on, unless you remove it completely from windows.

disable Enhance Pointer Precision and install MarkC mousefix
then you shouldn't have any troubles whatsoever.
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Yeh i was sorta leaning towards that anyway, then i was gonna try out the 2.10 method of finding your "supposed" perfect sensitivity and see what that rekons haha.

Wasnt keen on messing around with polling rates and overclocking usb ports, hence why i specifically drew ur attention to only 4 topics in the OP.

Any other thoughts guys?
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most mice these days you can change polling rate through drivers, only need to overclock older mice like the mx518, which is amazing @ 500hz polling rate imo.
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Quote from Lantern on the 16th of January 2012:
nope

counter strike 1.6 uses the desktop mouse settings and forces some accel on, unless you remove it completely from windows.

disable Enhance Pointer Precision and install MarkC mousefix
then you shouldn't have any troubles whatsoever.

What he said.

For 1.6 get "CPL Mouse fix"
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Quote from Mayo on the 17th of January 2012:
For 1.6 get "CPL Mouse fix"

nope
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Firstly the website you've been reading seems a bit dated on a few points, but for the most part quite accurate. If you're interested in a really in depth analysis of how the mouse works have a look at:
www.funender.com/quake/mouse/index.html

1.1: To disable mouse accel it first depends on what OS you're running. The CPL mouse fix is only applicable to Windows XP based computers. If you're running windows 7 (I believe it also works for vista, not entirely sure) you will want the "mark c windows 7 mouse fix" found here:
www.filefront.com/17191014/MarkC_Windows7_MouseFix.zip

In addition to that mouse fix, make sure 'enhance pointer precision' is turned off as well.

For CS 1.6 you will need to add two launch options, "-noforcemaccel -noforcemparms"
My CS 1.6 launch options as they appear in "properties > set launch options", -noforcemaccel -noforcemparms -noipx -nojoy -freq 120

There is another phenomenon known as negative acceleration. This is most predominant in cases where a dpi of over 400 is used.
More info on raw input can be found in the following link under the headings 'neg accel' and 'input': http://www.funender.com/quake/mouse/index.html

Only a few titles have inbuilt raw input functions (CSS through m_rawinput 1; and quake live through in_mouse 2 I believe). To eliminate negative acceleration through the use of raw input an external program known as Rinput can be used (Note: This is completely legal and not considered a cheat by EAC or VAC).

Rinput download: http://fnatic.com/downloads/662/RInput-Win-Vista-7-Acceleration-removal.html

To use it, just run the rinput.exe and type in the name of the relevant games executable every time you run the program and hit enter, i.e. hl.exe, iw3mp.exe, etc.

1.2: True story, leave mouse settings on 6/11 otherwise you'll get weird skipping

1.8: Bit outdated, I'm fairly sure those commands are all relevant to the old pre-orange box version of CSS, there are now a couple of new ones as well.

Pasted from my autoexec.cfg (based on regnam's autoexec available from : http://www.netcodeilluminati.com/forums/attachments/regnam-section-gratuite/89d1317859256-fichier-config-autoexec-high-fps-autoexec.zip)

m_customaccel "0"
m_customaccel_exponent "1"
m_customaccel_max "0"
m_customaccel_scale "0.04"
m_filter "0"
m_mouseaccel1 "0"
m_mouseaccel2 "0"
m_pitch "0.022"
m_yaw "0.022"
m_rawinput "1"
zoom_sensitivity_ratio "0.8"
sensitivity "3.5"

2.10: Finding you're own sensitivity is entirely up to you, the major issue with copying other people's sens is that it really comes down to whether you aim with your wrist or your arm and also the way you hold your mouse. If you do wish to copy someone's sensitivity that you know has a similar technique to you, you must also take into account what dpi they use as well (which for most top 1.6 players at least, is 400 by default).
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ive never understood what raw input is, I've chose it in games like CS:S and QL, and mouse just stops responding.
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Quote from Lantern on the 17th of January 2012:
Quote from Mayo on the 17th of January 2012:
For 1.6 get "CPL Mouse fix"

nope

Either that or Mark C.
But why nope, any reason?

@Apex, raw input is supposed to disregard other out of game applications and focus on the settings of the game/mouse.
It used to work for me, but when I was testing a Steelseries XAI it didn't work. I haven't tried it again on my new mouse though.
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could it be cause i've got DA's drivers installed?
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