So $2 released some pretty comprehensive balance changes.

Could this be the end of Magebane and Zephyr spamming pubs? A possible shift in the meta? what are your thoughts?

Woah a lot of changes. And whats with that pred buff? Errr...

well it looks like they're trying to shift away from the tanky type of meta, a small buff to pred would help with that as hes pretty much the "counter" to some tanky heroes.

Flux is looking damn sexy now though

I dont understand why they are buffing heroes like dev that are already so easy to gank with (and thus easy to kill with) and nerfing their counters ie. magmus stun and valk leap... shouldn't it be the other way around so that people cant just run around thinking they can kill anyone. In addition to that alot of the support items that are used to counter these types of heroes ie. mana ring, stormspirit, sols and even hotbl to an extent were people pick them up just so they can survive a devourer combo are now a bit useless compared to before.... Is this the end of the tankky meta? Yes, but the beginning of more gay-ism. (especially with a further nerf to kraken and engi mine buff) -.-"

Was not a fan of the engi buff, I also felt Midas got a bit of a raw deal, his heal is essentially useless now, not sure why arachna got a buff as well......

bout time defilers armor didn't suck donkey balls

lol monarch got soooo nerfed

You've obviously never ulti'd a valk with panda or devourer. If she is in cast animation of leap it will use ur ult, and she gets away. Fkn dumb.
I'm glad they nerfed valk leap

The really big thing is the hotbl nerf. Im actually pretty pumped to get some games now, i hated Amun-Ras, Zephyrs and Krakens getting an early helm and thinking they were god and it actually looks like puppet master might be viable in the solo mid lane at least now.

lols

I understand the midas nerf completely and I feel it was coming, just think it's too much compared to what other heroes got

Jeraziah
- Protective Charm and Sol's Blessing no longer gives assists

but why? The only way for Jera to get an assist now is through physically hitting.

Guy always gets nerf whenever there are new patch notes about him.

jera and midas were/are two of the strongest heroes in the game

I Don't know why people moan about Midas being nerfed. his heal got reduced but also the cool down for the skill got reduced so now you can spam it more.... i don't think that's a big of a deal.

The CD wasn't decreased, it was swapped with golden salvo so it actually takes 18 seconds to CD rather than 13