the point really is.. does it matter what international comps do really? since only the very top teams would even consider praccing for those and or even playing in them?

e.g. GA can run their 10/12/16/vswhat ever with all unlocks allowed and cg can run the more competitive rule set what ever it might be

just because ESL/what ever does what they think is best doesnt mean its what CG over all thinks is best

Yes, because all of the comps run by sponsors ctrl+c the ESL/TWL rulesets, because they are the most commonly used ones.

Which I've already said, just a little bit up the page.

If CG runs a format/ruleset completely different from any other comps anywhere, it needs substance to keep attention and motivation on it. Why practice 10v10 stock at all at the moment?

There's an ideal and reality fighting here, and for CG's benefit I think reality needs to win this one.

The original format sounded fun, but whatever i guess, just try to keep some variety in the maps imo, could you offer some maps in a 10v10 format just as an option if both teams agree?

"10v10 seems to work best on most maps" pffffftttt
B2K or not, it should have started 8v8.

And changing rules for a comp half way through is ******ed.

holy shit, u only need 7 minutes sleep?

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What about banning attachments and having all guns apart from the ones banned that are deemed op.

Any reason why we could not look at flexible 8 or 10 team sizes depending on map (size)

8v8
Still dont see valid reasoning behind why unlocks need to be added

This. It's gone full 180 from '**** the world lets do our own thing' to, 'everywhere else in the world is doing it, lets do it'. And although you say that everyone was in agreeance to the 10v10 stocks, no one can argue that iM were the major pushers for the cause.

Now it seems like because iM realise that they can compete on the world stage, the ruleset needs to be adjusted? No other teams play in overseas / american comps AFAIK (could be wrong) but even then, it's like 2 teams. Lets be fair it's not overly hard to add in two more people pre-game when you're making a strat or whatever. If this ON3 comp goes ahead, the rulesets will be more uniformed anyway, since there's 2x 10v10 comps and 1x8v8?

I don't really care that much because i'll play regardless, but it is amusing.

Leave as is and change after first season if need be tbh~

yeah immunity bros what happened 2 that annoying spawn beacon in the backroom on damavand peak GB???

****daunlocks

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How about iM(and whoever else wants the smaller format mid-season) just strat 8v8 and rock up to their matches with 8 players? 8v10 will be good practice anyway.

Everyone really hates change here, dont they?

I find merit in the Rule set that Redding has posted because of its international compatibility, and the fact that the teams that are at the top can practice one format and not have to change mindsets every single time they scrim. This increases our preparedness, allows us to compare matches from around the world, and LEARN THINGS that can better improve our community's skill level as a whole.

Afaik iM is not the only team that would benefit from a rule set change, and creating the opportunity for other teams who put in the effort to compete on the international stage is a good thing for us in general.

I'm sure the Admins are also trying to look for longevity in their community. By Offering a rule set that everyone (in the world) plays, there's not the issue to drop the game after one season, because the potential for competition outside Australia is still there, so it will continue to garner attention from our internal community as a whole.

I'm trying to understand why everyone is having a rage. 8v8 provides a smaller team, so more teams can be active, it uses more of the devices that are provided from the base game, without crippling the skill that is involved in strategic/tactical planning, and gives the teams near the top (and teams who can work to the top) the ability to play at the international level, and maybe even succeed.

P.S. - there's the potential for at least 4 "top" teams to compete in the Asia cup if it runs again, and Alienware ladder is just as active as the CG one, both which run a different rule set from the one we play on now.

TL: DR learn to accept change, and practice so your team can make the international scene.

rofl

Have always been sad that people seem to think Karg island doesn't work. That map is so much fun.

Expecting to see comps like there have been in the past on an international or even just regional style with signifigant cash/gear prizes at this point that havent already been announced is kind hoping for alot.

If the main point to change to 8v8 is to accomodate the current competitions (Alienware/Clanbase), well the teams from alienware are the same as CG, so they will have to modify their strats to compensate for this, there will be no real disadvantage.

Clanbase is kinda void as its just for fun? But if placing well it could provide a little bit of a name for Aus in future battlefield games (future battlefield games, good one)


Play 8v8 if its more fun, but playing it and intending on competing in other comps, its a stretch.

This is hilarious. Who gives a shit about overseas comps, the bandwidth between Australia and other countries will always give us a disadvantage.

Battlefield game should be about biggest possible format that teams can allow for.

Here's a thought, why not have two comps? 8's and 16's........