Yes....I didn't even think of hardcore hahah nice one freed. I was saying to Zone I can't do that all I get is hit markers....then he told me it was hardcore rofl

However isn't there a patch coming to improve chances of 1sk's or something? to upper torso/head in core mode?

I think the patch will make it a 1 hit kill at a range like 15m

I certainly hope it wont. Well if they do patch it then I think a slight nerf into the reload speed of the straight bolt would balance it nicely.

People can play agressive recon with the shotties and the PDW's but enough with the running around with a sniper rifle as if its a shottie. Actually just enough on the sniper rifles full stop.

Here's some footage of BF2MC - all snipers were 1sk's at all ranges. Its wasnt as bad as you think, and actually made sniping more fun. Not a big fan of the straight bolt. Back then dudes had to quickswitch (switch to pistol and back to rifle) and could do it extremly fast (quicker than the straight bolt) however it was a skill built up over time and practice not a weapon upgrade.



Ahhhh such a great game....if only it had an intuitive control scheme i'd have played it up until servers closed down. However it was out pre COD4 from which most new FPS titles adapt their control schemes from. Going back was extremely tough

....did I say how great a game it was?....great....great...FRRRKING GREAT game

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However gumby....yeah I think you're right just looking at Zone's video. If you consider Quickscoping is far more mainstream now days then yes pubs are gonna be chockers with these shenanigans going on.

If there is an increase in snipers however then the balance will come in the form of tanks & choppa's being more effective and will sort them out. Its the randoms that are going to be a problem for the ground pounders - absolutely no doubt. Again when looking at BF2MC it didn't feel OP at all - how it doesn't? I don't know it just never did you just accepted it as is.

yeah the tanks will help sort them out but what I find about alot of these quickscoping pros is that they never help out the team and always seem to be hiding.

Freed and a few others are the only guys I have seen in BC2 that actually helped out but then the recon was pretty usefull with the wookie balls. In BF3 all the snipers just want to MAV to some ridiculous place where they can view the whole map but never help out, resulting in spawn traps.

More guys need to pick up the engie kit and put down the elite sniper or go play team deathmatch if you want to snipe, thats what I do when I want to try and snipe.

I think prob more because snipers had c4 made them more useful against vehicles in BFBC2

- in BF2MC as you can see from the rooftop footage he laser targets a tank. Was annoying as hell as a tanker but you learnt where to drive to avoid them/which buildings and bridges etc to lean up against to block their incoming trajectory. I think the increase will help snipers be more useful but yeah i still think its going to be annoying as hell

Wow I just watched that video and considering bc2 was my first battlefield I think I came into at the right time. One shot kill anywhere is just bad bad bad for video games online

Agreed. I actually think BC2 had the perfect balance in terms of all the weapons and vehicles. Now some things are a little more useful than others.

The best thing about BC2 was the repair tool wasn't as good as it is in BF3. The only bad part of BC2 was very few ways to get down choppers.

The problems with snipers isn't the 1sk ability. I think that is fine especially at any range. I think the problems stem from how quickly you can ADS. If they slow this relationship down between between shouldering & shooting then this would remove this quick scoping crap and I would have no issue with 1sk's - shooting from a prepared position should be the promotion not this running around like a madman and getting away with it crap which is only possible because of how quickly you can ADS.

I disagree, snipers sitting back in your spawn trying to get kills hurts the team usually resulting in getting spawn trapped. I much prefer Snipers to be on the move without setting up camp but I also hate quickscoping as most games with aim assist help it.

In short just remove all sniper rifles from battlefield.

I prefer a sniper to be closer to the battle rather than sitting back. Sitting back kind of makes the person look like a coward

Nothing to do with sitting back - overwatch positions on flags in defense positions.

Or manning a mounted GTAM, keeping the artillery clear, and providing GPS info was how they were played in BF2MC as well as aggressive recon. 1sk's at all ranges just slow the ADS a bit is all im saying.

They do need something else in BF3 though to be more attacking so im sure this patch will make it so