What do you guys think of this?
http://rog.clgaming.net/blogs/jungle/5485-jungle-tier-list-ziggs-era

I think its fairly accurate except for the Warwick placement, there is no way he is in the same tier as Leona and Eve. His jungle speed isn't too bad and once he gets 6 he has the best arguably the best ganks in the game thanks to his kit. His only problem is that his pre-6 offers no pressure but even with this t3 is too low.

Thought Maokai would be top but guess Im not really an expert

stonewalls list is a joke, anyone that takes any of the info he gives out serious will fail.

All he is known for is finding out how to jungle with every champ, which holy shit isnt that hard to do, so he really isn't someone to learn from.

1494 elo, top 1761

I'm not a fan of that tbh, Mao and Cho? I rarely see a good Cho Gath jungler and why is Shy up there? She can clear jungle well but her ganks are bad in comparison to the rest of the list.

Have always been curious as to why someone from one of the top3 teams (or even grouped up) hasnt made their own tier lists to post onto cg. Maybe something that the Gamers Institute could look into doing.

Mundo is beast jungler since buff

I see shys ganks with red buff fairly succesfull, even without hard cc her dmg is stupid. Plus with her clear times u can take enemy camps too.

I think everyone would rather not be berated for every one of their 100 champion opinions. Elementz is still copping hate since beta, and people have learned to accept him long ago.

yea fair point. and as for shyvana if you have lanes which can sustain themselves or push their lanes then i think shes a fairly beasty jungler thats able to hurt the other jungler pretty hard

i think most champion tier list to be ******ed because certain things work better with certain comps

This list is quite inaccurate at some areas.
Recently in the new META, Jungle karthus has been played by high elo players eg Saintvious. Yes yes we all know karthus is mana hungry but his ganks are ****ed up. from lvls 1~4 his wall is pretty much a trundle ult without the lift steal, instead- with a ****en slow.
Warwick in this tier list has been underated, pre 6 yes he cant gank as hard, but with right runes and masteries he can power lvl to 6 without any ganks, warwick is a jungler that a team must work its composition around- all sustain till 6.Also, With WW- peoplejust try to get 6. Lets be honest, if your team comp is around ww, he alone can solo dragon at 5~4 with no help. Nunu has been puished up because he can play many roles, support nunu- Watch Empire vs Dignitas. Jungle nunu, hard counter jungle, but now since m5's game vs tsm, SHYVANA has been pushed up in the ranks as the best counter jungle right now. Shyvana has alot of potiential, but she can be shut down in jungle, ward hard and she is worse than warwick.

Why do bad / low elo players all say shyvana is bad? Stop trying to dictate who's good in the jungle when you have no idea what you are talking about lol. Shyvana has the fastest clear time / farms the jungle better than anyone / counter jungles the best. Her ganks are incredibly strong even though she has "no cc", when she has red her ganks are super man, and if you're good you should be taking exhaust / smite with her not flash / smite.

^How on earth can she be shut down in the jungle when she can literally start anywhere and still thrive lol. Ward hard and she's worse than WW? lol? She then just farms the jungle all day (faster than anyone else / can counter jungle) and can still pull off ganks from running up through turret or brush ganks. real

Edited once, 7/2/12 - 12:14pm.

And right you are scream, always said how could anyone take this guy seriously =P

Why does everyone forget about jungle kayle. She is BEAST.

wait sion tier 3? op ganks, good sustain and relatively fast jungle. doesnt make sense to me